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Hi.

I have been drawing pages on the model space, inside rectangles (same size) and placing the content of each page inside a rectangle.

So far I was able to get to the paper space, using the same template to create a new layout page (so everything should be the same), and then zooming to object (the rectangle) to make the content of each page (rectangle) fit the paper space page / layout page.

 

The problem is that for some crazy reason, now, when I use the command zoom to object and select the rectangle, the zoom isn't completed correctly.

Part of the rectangle remains visible on the screen close to the edges of the screen (layout page).

 

How can I fix the "zoom -> object" command?

If I zoom to window, instead of object,  and draw a selection rectangle on top of the existing rectangle object, the zoom works perfectly.

No part of the rectangle remains visible on my layout page.

 

What is going on here? Why the zoom isn't working on some pages, even though all pages are the same, with same properties, same scale, same page setup, everything equal since I'm using a template to create the new layout pages.

 

Thanks

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Can you post a drawing?

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Have you tried creating a view for each rectangle?

 

Do you use the same monitor each time?

 

Are all the rectangles the same size (just eliminating all the possibilities)?

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Hi Guys.

My model space below:

image.thumb.png.114a7b9e4768ce146ef52fca713dfd2e.png

 

1) As you can see, every page is inside a rectangle and all rectangles are identical.

2) Every layout page was created from a template file, so every single paper page is identical, with the same title block, the same page size.

 

What changed:

- Before, everytime I used the command zoom -> object, and selected the rectangle, the zoom would occur until the rectangle disappered, right at the edges os the paper space.

- Now, when I do the same command, it doesn't zoom completely until the rectangle disappears. It's like some kind of bleed or margin restriction is applied to the zoom to object, restriction that wasn't present in my settings before.

 

Again, when I zoom and pick the WINDOW option, instead of the OBJECT option, and select a rectangle window overlapping the drawn rectangle, the zoom works perfectly and the drawn rectangle isn't displayed at all.

Again, that's an indication that the zoom is working differently now with the OBJECT option.

 

Look the result of zoom to object below:

 

image.thumb.png.4c70d0db6112a7d72397d7a880c46be7.png

 

The purple line is the object I selected! So, it wasn't supposed to be displayed at all!

If the dimensions weren't proposrtional to the paper space dimmensions, what you would see is two sides disappearing (for example the vertical lines), remaining only the horizontal lines on screen, but NEVER all 4 lines. If all four lines appear, it means the zoom is incomplete, with some kind of margins defined in its settings.

 

If I repeat the zoom using the WINDOW command, the result doesn't show any line at all!

image.thumb.png.4366acae69d40ccbb090400b00a387c8.pngimage.thumb.png.2b494a7940ea4ae366802ad82dc201f2.png

 

 

I'm saving the AutoCAD file here with one paper space layout, and the zoom to object applied to it.

See if that helps. Test.dwg

 

 

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Ok a couple of things for me I do the same task as many rectangs as you want.

 

I use a set size title block in a layout, then use a Mview with correct scale. This means you could have rectangs at different scales ie 1:100 1:50 etc. The rectangs match the mview size and are set by scale and size. 

image.png.0710f1782ec4f1c230bb4868f205e3c1.png

 

I noticed that the layout mview matches the world co-ordinates there is no need for that each layout should be at say 0,0. 

 

The making of the layouts is automatic just reads the rectangs, the code I have also allows for a rotation of the rectangs.

layout1.png.9d03ab6cd7fbd5b4a128c15fbe0c31bf.png

 

Happy to discuss more PM me. It requires a bit of custom coding to suit your rectangs. It looks like your using a A3 size layout, so the purple rectang should be at true Paper size and the internal mview scaled correctly. not a height of 28700. Rather 287.

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On 31/07/2024 at 09:55, BIGAL said:

Ok a couple of things for me I do the same task as many rectangs as you want.

 

I use a set size title block in a layout, then use a Mview with correct scale. This means you could have rectangs at different scales ie 1:100 1:50 etc. The rectangs match the mview size and are set by scale and size. 

image.png.0710f1782ec4f1c230bb4868f205e3c1.png

 

I noticed that the layout mview matches the world co-ordinates there is no need for that each layout should be at say 0,0. 

 

The making of the layouts is automatic just reads the rectangs, the code I have also allows for a rotation of the rectangs.

layout1.png.9d03ab6cd7fbd5b4a128c15fbe0c31bf.png

 

Happy to discuss more PM me. It requires a bit of custom coding to suit your rectangs. It looks like your using a A3 size layout, so the purple rectang should be at true Paper size and the internal mview scaled correctly. not a height of 28700. Rather 287.

 

Apologies for the late reply.

 

I'd like to simplify the issue here.

 

If you use the command zoom -> object on a rectangle, or if you zoom -> window and draw a selection overlapping the rectangle, you were supposed to have the same exact results, right?

 

The same results would mean a zoom that makes the rectangle disappears (since it has the exact proportion of the paper space).

 

So, let's simplify the question here to:

why the behaviour of the zoom to object changed and isn't zooming enough to make the object selected disappear anymore?

Why Can I get that results only when using zoom to window?

 

As I said, it was working like that before. Now, the zoom to object changed its behaviour.

 

It's not a matter of how I created my paper space, the dimensions of the paper space, the dimensions of the rectangle.

Nothing that matter, since it was all working before, since everything has the same proportional dimensions, and as I said, I'm using a template from start to end to create the new pages. Why the first 6 pages had it working, now I can't make the zoom to object to work on any page?

 

The scale is the same, 1:100.

 

That's the issue here.

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