PJ01 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I have done an exercise in Model Space, with scale 1:2, and I have Formatted the Points to be 2mm, which is a good size for the model space drawing ( attached), and stored this in the template I use When looking at the Paper Space Viewport, as the same scale, the Point Format is way too large ( see attached) Can anyone please advise why this is so, and what I should do to prevent it happening now, and in future drawings regards to all PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halam Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 What is the current annoscale in modelspace? I believe it should display the same if they are identical. I prefer using annotative blocks for better control on paper. Use points only for modelling.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Objects that can be annotative include: Text Blocks & attribute definitions Hatches Dimensions & dimension styles Geometric tolerances Multileaders & multileader styles What benefit is derived from having a point on an object that could just as easily be accessed via an osnap setting like center or midpoint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadgad Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Why are you drawing to a scale in modelspace? Everything should be drawn full sized in modelspace 1:1 . Do whatever scaling you want to do, later, through your viewport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halam Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Objects that can be annotative include: Text Blocks & attribute definitions Hatches Dimensions & dimension styles Geometric tolerances Multileaders & multileader styles What benefit is derived from having a point on an object that could just as easily be accessed via an osnap setting like center or midpoint? Points are wonderful for retrieving xyz with a attached fields. But you better have them in a block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 The question was directed at the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halam Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Sounds familiar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 PJ01: What is PDSIZE set to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ01 Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 Why are you drawing to a scale in modelspace?Everything should be drawn full sized in modelspace 1:1 . Yes !! Thanks for that comment. I meant to post this in Beginners, but landed here by mistake late at night. My custom template , when opened, gave a model space scale of 1:2, and I never noticed this. Have fixed that, and the scaling of the Points in the Paper Space (Layout) returned to normal too. I have selected the Point format to be 2%, not 2mm as stated above. I like using POINT command to give key point locations before drawing any lines and circles, especially using Relative command. I suppose that I could use relative command for placement of circles too, but still in the beginner stage, and open to any suggestions on how to approach a drawing thanks all for your comments, much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana W Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The modelspace scale? You mean the modelspace annotative scale, correct? This scale, shown below, does not change the scale of the objects in modelspace. It only simulates what your annotative objects will look like in a viewport. It is used to facilitate placing, and spacing dimensions, leaders, and notes, and any other annotative objects nicely so they will look good and not obscure any modeled objects once they get to a viewport scaled to the SAME scale as your modelspace annotative (viewing) scale. I use annotative dimensions, leaders, mtext, and the like. My work requires multiple sheets with multiple viewports set to many different scales. When I go to set my annotative dimensions in modelspace, I make sure to set my modelspace annotative scale to the same scale I intend to use in my viewport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana W Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm getting tired of listening to the cat fight. You know who you are. mature up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjenk8100 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 annotative scaling messes a lot of people up. It is well worth researching it. Once you get that down your life can get much easier. Im sure this site has tutorials on annotative objects and youtube also can do wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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