GISdude Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Hi all, I've been put in charge of a project to convert roughly 1000 microstation files to autocad. I've googled, but nothing exactly fits the bill. I can put together a lisp routine to do the heavy lifting, but I'm SURE there will be hiccups along the way. The microstation files are circa 2006, so about 9 years old... Any tips or tricks you guys willing to share? I'm doing a quick write up for my boss and we'll probably refine the process a little bit. I feel like I'm a drafter being made into a project manager...kind of exciting Thanks, Quote
ReMark Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Perhaps a script could be written to batch process a folder full of the Microstation files but I'm not 100% sure. I suppose you could test that theory say on a folder that held only a half dozen drawings just to see what happens. I sure hope that in the process unreferenced MS linetypes don't over-inflate the drawing file though. That would be a bummer. Quote
GISdude Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 don't over-inflate the drawing file though. That would be a bummer. ummm...like by how much typically? When I've received microstation files from contractors in the past, they have some weird labeling conventions for the layers. I've never understood it. Quote
ReMark Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Maybe it only affects drawings where a person copies content from a MS drawing to an AutoCAD drawing. Quote
Dana W Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 ummm...like by how much typically? I have seen as much as 20 to 25 meg of extraneous DGN line types coming in with those things. Quote
BIGAL Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 This has been asked before !!!! Yes a script IMPORTDGN DWG1 save Y. You can set up Microstation translation tables and this improves the end result, sorry never had to do it. My experience yes Autodesk says it can do and it does but like DANA the result wow! Lots more little scripts lisps etc to get it perfect. Dont worry about the tree that is Now "A" Post a couple of small samples dgn & dwg as you would like it and we may be able to do some extra work on them as part of the "IMPORTDGN" script. Quote
SLW210 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Microstation does a better job by exporting to .dwg than AutoCAD does on converting the .dgn to .dwg. See if something in THIS thread at Autodesk forum helps any. Quote
GISdude Posted March 25, 2015 Author Posted March 25, 2015 I did a couple of imports manually on some small (200kb) files, and once it's in AutoCAD the file size goes to 600kb. That could be an issue. Quote
BIGAL Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Again without a sample dgn & dwg who knows, secondly a blank drawing when saved is not really empty its full of stuff hence size, but it can be reduced. Quote
ReMark Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I did a couple of imports manually on some small (200kb) files, and once it's in AutoCAD the file size goes to 600kb. That could be an issue. There is one more test you should run on one of these bloated files. AutoCAD released a DGN Hotfix for AutoCAD 2012 (should work in Civil 3D too I would guess) that cleans up what they call non-essential data. The Hotfix can be downloaded from here... http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/downloads/caas/downloads/content/autocad-C2-AE-dgn-hotfix-for-autocad-2012.html Definitely give the Readme file a look too as it contains instructions on how to install and run the clean-up tool. Let us know if it makes any difference in the file size or not. Quote
Organic Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 My experience of trying to import microstation files (generally from government departments...) has not been favourable. I would be having a look at what other programs/converters are available for this and whether it will be quicker to use those possibly. Quote
SLW210 Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Microstation can batch convert them. Apparently know one is reading my posts, though. I give up. Quote
BIGAL Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 I agree with you SLW210 go back to the source, ps I did read your post. Quote
ttray33y Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Hi all,I've been put in charge of a project to convert roughly 1000 microstation files to autocad. I've googled, but nothing exactly fits the bill. I can put together a lisp routine to do the heavy lifting, but I'm SURE there will be hiccups along the way. The microstation files are circa 2006, so about 9 years old... Any tips or tricks you guys willing to share? I'm doing a quick write up for my boss and we'll probably refine the process a little bit. I feel like I'm a drafter being made into a project manager...kind of exciting Thanks, If you have V8i you can convert them via Batch Convert utility inside Microstation. Also as SLW210 said, microstation can convert them better than autocad. Tested here. Quote
GISdude Posted March 27, 2015 Author Posted March 27, 2015 ReMark, Thanks for the help. I'll have to have IT set this up on my machine. Of course, I'm beginning to be aware that my AutoCAD 2012 is starting to get a little out of date and will need to upgrade to 2015. Does anyone know if PowerDraft from Microstation would be a good (cheaper) alternative? I seem to recall it was about $1800 (US), but that was 3 years ago? Quote
BIGAL Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Rather than buy, pay someone probably a couple of hundred $$ or even less if it can be batched. Biggest problem will be qty but with internet now. Some one here can probably help I would do for paypal money. But no Microstation. How messy did they end up maybe post 1 here, time is ticking and thats a cost. Quote
ttray33y Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 ReMark, Thanks for the help. I'll have to have IT set this up on my machine. Of course, I'm beginning to be aware that my AutoCAD 2012 is starting to get a little out of date and will need to upgrade to 2015. Does anyone know if PowerDraft from Microstation would be a good (cheaper) alternative? I seem to recall it was about $1800 (US), but that was 3 years ago? if you can spare a few $$, i can batch it for you. let me know Quote
troggarf Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Microstation does a better job by exporting to .dwg than AutoCAD does on converting the .dgn to .dwg. I made a blog post about how to do this. It requires someone who has Microstation though. And like I say in the post, saving DGNs as DWG files is the only thing I know how to do in Microstation. ~Greg http://autocadtips1.com/2015/04/30/batch-convert-dgn-to-dwg-using-microstation/ Quote
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