Remove autocad educational stamp from all dwg in the folder

[dbroada]

Can't you go back to the reputable company and ask for a replacement set of files?

 

If they come in clean you will then know the problem is in house. If they come in infected they can be thankful you helped them find a problem in their system.

[Dana W]

Apparently the forest is being missed because the trees are blocking the view.

 

Autodesk starts realizing that the edu stamp outwardly identifies the product as not licensed. AutoDesk takes steps to remove the visible marker. Why does anyone think what they did is making the edu version unidentifiable as an unlicensed version? They are actually playing out more hangman's rope.

 

This reminds me of unmarked police cars. For years the way the layman could identify an unmarked police car is because most states had a legacy rule that prohibited their procurement department from ordering any unnecessary "luxury" items or upgrade packages. This meant that the big sedans with the high powered V8's, and high performance suspensions, were required to be delivered with plain vinyl bench seats, painted rims, and small center hubcaps. The majority of these cars were also painted white. Almost no private citizens ordered their cars this way. Unmarked police cars still stuck out like a sore thumb.

 

I lived in Virginia in the late 1980's when the Virginia State Police decided to start using Mustang GT's and Camaro Z28's as unmarked cars to patrol the highways around the state because John Q's Camaro could outrun a Crown Vic. They got a bill through the state that allowed it, but it didn't change all the rules. Virginia's Mustangs and Camaro's had to be sent to a paint shop to have the outer portions of the cast aluminum wheels painted black.

 

Even though the average jerk who would tend to drive too fast and dangerously could identify a Virginia Trooper's Mustang immediately, it took almost ten more years before the painted wheel rule was eliminated.

 

Now, the unmarked cars are still out there, but nobody can detect them on sight until the blue and red LED's hidden in the headlights and taillights come on.

[f700es]

I thought people here are smarter than that

 

Most are. No admin has come down on your post so that in itself shows you haven't broken any rules. Some here act as if AutoDesk pays their salary. As the admin has said numerous times this is an AutoCAD forum and not a forum by AutoDesk. AutoDesk itself has provided this work around for the EDU stamp. No "rule" is being broken in discussing what can be done in your situation. I hope you have tried to alert your company to the situation.

I was in a similar position before where a company I worked for was receiving EDU marked drawings from a company out of country. Like the good little worker I went to my company's directors and informed them of the situation. I was practically laughed out of the room. I informed my supervisor and was directed to do what I could with them.

Anyway to make a long story short you aren't breaking any forum rules here so it's all good.

I for one won't fall on the sword for AutoDesk and I don't expect anyone with any common sense to either.

[f700es]

Yeah but Virginia is screwed up in so many other ways that it is almost funny. The best one is where drivers are not allowed to use radar detectors. So the police can monitor you but you can't be alerted to when they are monitoring you? Almost like an earlier version of the "Patriot Act". ;)

 

Apparently the forest is being missed because the trees are blocking the view.

 

Autodesk starts realizing that the edu stamp outwardly identifies the product as not licensed. AutoDesk takes steps to remove the visible marker. Why does anyone think what they did is making the edu version unidentifiable as an unlicensed version? They are actually playing out more hangman's rope.

 

This reminds me of unmarked police cars. For years the way the layman could identify an unmarked police car is because most states had a legacy rule that prohibited their procurement department from ordering any unnecessary "luxury" items or upgrade packages. This meant that the big sedans with the high powered V8's, and high performance suspensions, were required to be delivered with plain vinyl bench seats, painted rims, and small center hubcaps. The majority of these cars were also painted white. Almost no private citizens ordered their cars this way. Unmarked police cars still stuck out like a sore thumb.

 

I lived in Virginia in the late 1980's when the Virginia State Police decided to start using Mustang GT's and Camaro Z28's as unmarked cars to patrol the highways around the state because John Q's Camaro could outrun a Crown Vic. They got a bill through the state that allowed it, but it didn't change all the rules. Virginia's Mustangs and Camaro's had to be sent to a paint shop to have the outer portions of the cast aluminum wheels painted black.

 

Even though the average jerk who would tend to drive too fast and dangerously could identify a Virginia Trooper's Mustang immediately, it took almost ten more years before the painted wheel rule was eliminated.

 

Now, the unmarked cars are still out there, but nobody can detect them on sight until the blue and red LED's hidden in the headlights and taillights come on.

[nestly]

 

You treat me like someone that stole software and post “crack is needed”

 

Same thing... You're asking for a way to "crack" the EDU plotstamp, which is an anti-piracy device intended to prevent free EDU software from being used for commercial purposes.

 

Your attempt to justify your actions based on the changed behavior is not valid because the 2015 license(s) still prohibit the use of EDU produced content in commercial drawings.... which is exactly what you're doing, (and what you're trying to get us to be complicit in.)

[f700es]

Can't you go back to the reputable company and ask for a replacement set of files?

 

If they come in clean you will then know the problem is in house. If they come in infected they can be thankful you helped them find a problem in their system.

 

Agreed, try to work with them on finding the source of the problem. Could be some little block someone used at some point in time.

[samifox]

I lost hope

[nukecad]

samifox;

 

As things stand if you use Autocad 2015 it will remove any EDU stamp from a drawing when you save it regardless of anything that you do.

I don't see how anyone can be vilified for something that is beyond their control.

 

For years it has been illegal to remove the EDU stamp and for years responsible forum members have been telling people that, old habits die hard.

 

However Autodesk themselves have decided that removing the stamp is now to be allowed.

They have not yet fully explained why they have had this about face. Hence some of the confusion.

 

This is not a mistake or a bug in Acad2015 (and 2014SP1) it is a deliberate policy change by Autodesk; they have been talking openly about it for a number of years.

 

They did realise that this situation would cause problems over who was and who wasn't using a legal commercial version but have yet to put out any statements guidance about this (that I can find).

Edited June 19, 2014 by nukecad

[samifox]

You r the only person here who understand right my original post

[nestly]

 

For years it has been illegal to remove the EDU stamp and for years responsible forum members have been telling people that, old habits die hard.

 

However Autodesk themselves have decided that removing the stamp is no longer to be deemed illegal.

 

Again, the 2015 license agreements continue to prohibit the use of EDU produced content for non-educational purposes. If the stamp is there, the file was created or modified in full or in part by an EDU license. Removing it does no absolve the person/company from the illegal act of profiting from EDU produced content.

 

@ samifox, there's a difference between not understanding, and disagreeing. I understand the problem, We just disagree about whether it's your right to ignore the license agreement because it causes you inconvenience.

Edited June 19, 2014 by nestly

[f700es]

I lost hope

 

If it's out of your control then it's out of your control.

[nukecad]

Again, the 2015 license agreements continue to prohibit the use of EDU produced content for non-educational purposes. If the stamp is there, the file was created or modified in full or in part by an EDU license. Removing it does no absolve the person/company from the illegal act of profiting from EDU produced content.

 

Agreed;

 

My wording was hasty; I have edited my previous post to now read "...removing the stamp is now to be allowed."

 

Indeed it is not just allowed, 2015 will do it automatically without you even being aware that it was there in the first place.

[nukecad]

I think that it is the handling of the EDU stamp by 2015 that is the main issue here.

 

IF 2015 dosn't warn you that you are loading a drawing with the EDU stamp then how are you supposed to know?

(Yes there are 3rd party programmes that will scan a drawing and tell you if it has the stamp, but do you really want to have to run every drawing you get through a seperate scan before you open it?)

 

As I said previously what we really need is a statement from Autodesk saying:

1- Why they have made this change?

2- What their policy is now regarding the removal of the stamp other than with 2015?

3- What their policy is now regarding educational sofware versions?

4- What is happening with autocad vertical products?

 

For instance I believe that the 2015 Educational Version of Autocad no longer puts the stamp on drawings.

Can anyone confirm this?

 

What about TrueView2015, does this remove the stamp when saving / converting? Answer Yes; it does.

 

And how about Autocad 360?

 

 

EDIT- TrueView2015 will remove the stamp, but only runs on win7, win8, & win8.1

http://blog.jtbworld.com/2014/03/dwg-trueview-2015-can-remove.html

Edited June 19, 2014 by nukecad

[nestly]

Indeed, there is now much confusion about how the EDU designator works, it's future and how end users are even supposed to know whether the drawing was produced with a EDU license or not.

 

But... it doesn't change anything about the original question until/unless Autodesk releases customers from existing license agreements. If you're using anything prior to 2014 SP1, then you're receiving the warning, so there's really no wiggle room about whether or not it violates the license to remove the stamp so the drawing may be used for commercial purposes

[rkmcswain]

That bit about "..align the user experience.." is just corporate nothingspeak.

 

My bet is that is all we are going to get though.

 

"To withhold the truth is to invite speculation..."

[BIGAL]

A bit sideways now as an EX AutoCAD dealer we had a phone call from Autodesk asking how many copies we had sold a particular company, the short version they were using an extra 8 pirate versions some one had advised Autodesk of this, possibly a competing business, the had to buy 8 copies at full RRP within 30 days or go to court for breach of Copyright License. It was common knowledge a succesfull prosecution may have had rewards for the informer.

 

Dont believe Autodesk does not have big deep pockets $$$ when it comes to copyright breaches if they find out.

[f700es]

Dont believe Autodesk does not have big deep pockets $$$ when it comes to copyright breaches if they find out.

 

Them, Microsoft, Apple and Adobe! All 4 have unlimited pockets.

[nukecad]

Dont believe Autodesk does not have big deep pockets $$$ when it comes to copyright breaches if they find out.

 

Not just copyright, tradmarks as well.

In Feb 2012 CadEverything.com changed its name from AutocadEverything.com, the webmaster had become unconfortable with it.

Six months later we got an email from one of Autodesks trademark lawyers asking us to give up the domain Autocadeverything.com to them as it violated their trademark. They did acknowledge that it had already been changed and took no further action.

Oddly enough they agreed to leave a redirect from the old name for six months, this has not yet been removed and is still active.

[souvik]

Save the drawing in DXF format, then open it and again save it in DWG format. It will remove the stamp..

[birdbreath]

Here's a situation where it may be ethical for removing the plot stamp from a drawing modified with an educational version. We have practicum students who work in our office and produce work that is incorporated into our commercial drawings. (This is an old practice and 30 years ago I created drawings by hand that were used commercially by the firm in which I was a practicum student.) In a recent situation, we asked a practicum student to do some work on a drawing originally produced on a licensed version of AutoCAD. We let her use a laptop with an installed licensed version of AutoCAD. We didn't realize at the time that she preferred to use her own laptop with an educational version installed on it and instantly "contaminated" our drawing. Now a year after she left the firm, we've re-opened the drawing to resume working on the project and find that it now has an embedded plot stamp. Does anyone see an ethical issue with removing the stamp?