The Farting Sloth Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hi Everybody As you can see I am new here. I am also new to Autocad. I am using Autocad 2012. I am battling to find out how to make a border and title block for my machine drawings . Would anyone pleeeeeeease help me out with this. Do i do it in paper space or in model space. I appreciate any help. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSasu Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 The best solution is to make your sketches in Model Space and use Paper Space to fit them at scale on your sheet; the title block seems more appropriate here. Is up to you where will add the dimensions. Regarding the title block please check that AutoCAD is shipped with some templates including title blocks. You may try to start your custom one from this. May want to follow a tutorial on blocks with attributes before proceeding this conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Your title block and border really belong in your paper space layout and not in model space. Putting them in model space is so old school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkent Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 You would draw a title block and border in model space, save that file, open one of your machine drawings and insert the title block drawing in PaperSpace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLW210 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 You would draw a title block and border in model space, save that file, open one of your machine drawings and insert the title block drawing in PaperSpace. +1 That's the best way. Then Add to a Tool Palette or Create a button to Insert or Insert from Design Center or Add as part of the template file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Adding the title block and border as part of a template file does save time and effort in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGAL Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 My $0.05 worth draw your titleblock true size if A1 then say 800x570 and add a mview window which scales the model space object, this way you plot at 1:1 with your "views" scaled correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organic Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 My $0.05 worth draw your titleblock true size if A1 then say 800x570 and add a mview window which scales the model space object, this way you plot at 1:1 with your "views" scaled correctly. This is what I'd recommend also. The good thing about it is, once you get your titleblock setup correctly you won't need to change it very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farting Sloth Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Thanks for all the help. I will give it a bash and hopefully I can get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farting Sloth Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Ok so I have created a border and title block in model space and saved it as a block. I then opened a drawing and inserted the "Border" block into my drawing. They are now different scales. In other words my drawing is way to small for the border. If I go to the plot preview the drawing is out of proportion to the border. Do I have to edit the "Border" block or increase the size of the drawing and if so how? Once again thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Are you at all familiar with the use of paper space layouts and viewports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farting Sloth Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Not as familiar as I would like to be, but if that is the solution to my problems then I will get familiar with the use of layouts and viewports. Any other advice would be appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkent Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Are you drawing in imperial or metric? If metric, are your units assumed to be mm, cm, or M? What dimensions did you make your border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farting Sloth Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I am using metric my units are mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkent Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) To apply a scale factor or plotting scale in a viewport in a layout you can click once on the outline of the viewport, pick the vpscale from the lower right annoscale dropdown or use the mview toolbar . You can make that viewport active (double click inside the viewport) then use the scale list at the lower right part of the screen, or find the mview toolbar and pick the scale from there, or click on the viewport and use properties to set it, or go old school and type it in after starting the zoom command. So if you need a scale of 1:50 you simply pick that from the list of scales. (Old school you type Zoom, 1/50XP) It is best to center the area you are wanting to show using zoom and pan and then apply the scale factor. Don't forget to lock the viewport after getting the scale you want and getting things centered with the Pan command. After leaving the viewport and getting back into PS you can right click on the viewport and pick Display Locked, and pick yes or no. Edited November 19, 2012 by rkent corrected some info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farting Sloth Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Thanks for the info. It is a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGAL Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 A simpler method for metric if you have the viewports toolbar displayed when you go into the mview window a number will appear in the box this is current scale factor, so if you want 1:500 just type 2 in box 10 for 1:100 4 1:250. 1000/scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sittingbull Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 You did insert the block in paperspace, right? After this, draw a viewport and set the scale right. You can use a factor for precise scaling: zoom, 0.1, 0.25, 0.5 etc... Check out the forum on this matter, i'm sure you'll find plenty of info. Here's one of mine... It's 180mm like ISO requested and has attributes... TITLEBL.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farting Sloth Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks SB. Appreciate the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski_Me Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 This is why I save a template with the viewport already set. I use the same titleblock for every drawing but I use 3 or 4 versions of it depending on the scale I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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