fluxcapacitor Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Hello to all. This is my first post. I come to this forum to understand this odd distortion I'm encountering with AC2009. It seemed to happen the moment I changed the UCS orthogonal to draw cylinders with bases in the x-z plane. This is pretty new to me. I'm in engineering school so I'm still learning. Unfortunately, my proff isn't too CAD inclined, which leaves us to teach ourselves. The images that appear are of a dart cabinet and backboard that has been a particular pet project which I'll soon be building. >>>Early stages (realistic) >>>Same (conceptual) >>>Isolated (conceptual) ***Now I go astray. I canted the UCS such that the original y-axis to an x-axis because of the cylinder base x-y plane only constriction. I also drew a UCS array*** >>>Added doors and trim (realistic) >>>Graphic artifacts all over the place (conceptual) >>>Isolated (conceptual) Most all of the models are extruded solids without added faces. It's beginning to get hard to work with and I'd hate to start anew. Perhaps someone here with experience has a solution or otherwise ad-hoc preventive measure? Thank you all Quote
ReMark Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 What do you have for a graphics card? Can you post a copy of the DWG file so we can take a look at it? Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 23, 2012 Author Posted August 23, 2012 I can do that. Just updated my profile system details. http://http://www.mediafire.com/?2a0b5ub62vdkj32 -OR- http://www.mediafire.com/?2a0b5ub62vdkj32 ^^^not sure if that's how everyone does it Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 I can do that. But how do you post files? I responded earlier with a link to a mediafire but I suppose the reply was never approved. I also updated my computer specs. Quote
Dadgad Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Welcome to the forum. I haven't gone to all those other links, but would gladly look at your dwg. GO ADVANCED > MANAGE ATTACHMENTS > BROWSE & select > UPLOAD > close this window > SUBMIT I can't understand why you would choose to work on 2009, when as a student you can download the latest software absolutely free of charge from the Autodesk site. Any that you want, not just one, expand your horizons, stretch out a bit, try a few. :wink: Quote
SEANT Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 The file has some cylindrical surfaces extremely distant from the rest of the geometry. The graphics may become more stable if those are eliminated. Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 This might be better then Welcome to the forum. I haven't gone to all those other links, but would gladly look at your dwg. GO ADVANCED > MANAGE ATTACHMENTS > BROWSE & select > UPLOAD > close this window > SUBMIT I can't understand why you would choose to work on 2009, when as a student you can download the latest software absolutely free of charge from the Autodesk site. Any that you want, not just one, expand your horizons, stretch out a bit, try a few. :wink: Really? I had no idea. 2009 is just what we were provided by the university. Appreciate the info, I'll look into that for sure. dartboard_2_graphics_issues.dwg Quote
ReMark Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 AutoDesk Education Community http://students.autodesk.com/ Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 The file has some cylindrical surfaces extremely distant from the rest of the geometry. The graphics may become more stable if those are eliminated. If true, I wonder why this would be? It certainly raises my attention, considering many of my future projects will prove thoroughly more complex and graphic intensive. And if I proceed to using a newer version of AutoCAD would a more preferable graphics card be suitable? I'd like to think I could draw more than dartboard boxes without having to focus my eyes stronger than naval grade binoculars. Quote
ReMark Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 As SEANT has pointed out you have two objects on layer "0" which are way off in the distance. They are semi-circular extruded surfaces. If you do a Zoom > All you should find them. Try removing them and see what affect it has. Quote
JD Mather Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 If true, I wonder why this would be? It certainly raises my attention, considering many of my future projects will prove thoroughly more complex and graphic intensive... Keep in geometry in a bounding box about the 0,0,0 origin. This is common to all CAD programs and has been discussed here in some detail in the past. I forget the limit but it might be 10000cm. Has to deal floating point math operations. Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 Wow! I have no idea how that got there. Actually had to clean my computer screen to find it. Thank god for 1080p All right! It's fixed! Learned something new... Thanks everyone Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) On further notice, I did recall using the ctrl+v operation a lot. It snuck up on me I guess Edited August 24, 2012 by fluxcapacitor didn't realize ****** was censored Quote
Dadgad Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Of the 200 objects in the drawing, after erasing the 3D flotsam, you still have ... 57 3D Solids 35 Surface extrusions 10 3D Faces 97 Lines and 1 Polyline It would be much easier for you to work with this drawing in 2D Wireframe, it will be much smoother and quicker. :wink: Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 It would be much easier for you to work with this drawing in 2D Wireframe, it will be much smoother and quicker. :wink: That would make too much sense ... Unfortunately, because of the unique way my school is taught and funded, I was never instructed on 2D designing other than on a drafting table. I'd hesitate to announce my school system's name, but I will say that we're not too good on building bonfires; they tend to... collapse. I'll take the 2D designing into consideration. In fact, I might just as well redo the drawing on a 2D wireframe now just to work with it. Thanks again! Quote
Dadgad Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 STOP! Don't do anything but change your visualstyle to 2D Wireframe. Open your VISUALSTYLE toolbar, where you will see a few of the most popular VISUAL STYLES represented by icons. You should try the one either at the top, if you have it on the side of your screen, or on the left end if horizontal. If you hover over it, hopefully it will display the tooltip identifying what it does. If you don't have your tooltips turned on, let me know and I'll tell you how to. Do you know how to access your OPTIONS? Right click in your COMMANDLINE window. Quote
fluxcapacitor Posted August 24, 2012 Author Posted August 24, 2012 STOP! Don't do anything but change your visualstyle to 2D Wireframe. Open your VISUALSTYLE toolbar, where you will see a few of the most popular VISUAL STYLES represented by icons. You should try the one either at the top, if you have it on the side of your screen, or on the left end if horizontal. If you hover over it, hopefully it will display the tooltip identifying what it does. If you don't have your tooltips turned on, let me know and I'll tell you how to. Do you know how to access your OPTIONS? Right click in your COMMANDLINE window. I figured it out. Sorry, I thought you were referring to ortho views Quote
Dadgad Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Did you try working on it in 2D Wireframe visualstyle yet? It should be much faster and smoother. Go ahead and use an ISOMETRIC perspective to check out how it is that way. Quote
ReMark Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Some people find working in a 2D wireframe visual style too confusing so they go with conceptual or realistic only to find out later that some of their "pick points" were nowhere near to being correct. I work 95% of the time in 2D wireframe and seldom find it confusing. Of course it helps to utilize layers wisely freezing and thawing as one goes along to reduce screen clutter. Quote
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