dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Both two are presented in Realistic Visual Style. The one on top is colour ByLayer (colour 9), the bottom one is in material stainless steel. I find the colour Bylayer appears better. How do I change the stainless steel settings as to improve the material presentation? They both appear having the bowl bottom in darker shade and I fail to make the joint lines vanish. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Quote
ReMark Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Maybe the lines are a result of 2D geometry that was retained? Did you union the sink bottom with the rest of the sink? Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 Tried Union but they still are separate entities. Quote
ReMark Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 That doesn't seem right. Maybe you need to take a closer look at your geometry. Quote
tzframpton Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 You'll never get "best results" until you actually render the file for output. Tiny alterations to the visual perspective of the working file are common. Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 ReMark, I couldn't find anything wrong with the geometry. StykFacE, strangely that I always get "much" better result with Realistic Visual Style than Render and this sink has no exception . Can you please elaborate "Tiny alterations to the visual perspective of the working file are common" ? Thanks. Quote
ReMark Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Since you cannot union the two sections of the sink then something is off. Either you will leave it as is and live with the seam or you will find and fix the problem which will allow you to union the objects and get rid of the unsightly lines. The choice is entirely up to you. Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 ReMark, can you help me to see anything wrong please? Quote
ReMark Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Not via an image I can't. We would need a actual DWG file. How did you create the sink in the first place? Quote
Bartjacks Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 looks like something imported from a Vendor Website, those are the worst to try and manipulate. wouldnt it be easier to just trace it and make it yourself just the way you want? Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 Bartjacks, what gave you the idea that it was imported from somewhere? ReMark, the Planar Surface and the Sweep parts "Unioned". Is it because the upper part is kind of solid that's why can't be merged? Quote
ReMark Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Why would you create a sink using a solid for one portion and a surface for the other? Any attempt to union the entities should result in the following message from AutoCAD: "At least 2 solids, surfaces, or coplanar regions must be selected." You have one of each and you are trying to union them. It won't work. Quote
Bartjacks Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 my apologies for offending you dreamer, i did not mean to(peace offering), it just looks like the surface modeling stuff that vendors have out there because of the surfaces and made a wrong asumption. but I agree with Remark on the Why Q. why not make both solid and utilize a fillet where your sweep is? Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 Barjacks, I am cooled. Now I've made the 3 entities all in surfaces (on the right). Can't tell the different in Visual Style, the seam still there. make both solid and utilize a fillet where your sweep is? I'll try to make them in solid this time but how to do the fillet in this instant?Thanks. Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) "Shell" the solid fails - Remove top face, Offset 1.2mm I got this message: Modeling Operation Error: No solution for an edge. Edited April 23, 2012 by dreamer sent too early Quote
JD Mather Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 "Shell" the solid fails - Remove top face, Offset 1.2mm I got this message: Modeling Operation Error: No solution for an edge. This might all go faster if you attach the dwg here. Like the others - I don't understand why fooled with surfaces for this design? Also, have you added any draft angle to the sides? Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 JD Mather, without experiencing, I'll never know the difference between the two tools. I am now doing it in solid but "Shell" the solid fails - Remove top face, Offset 1.2mm I got this message: Modeling Operation Error: No solution for an edge. stainless steel bowl.dwg Quote
dreamer Posted April 23, 2012 Author Posted April 23, 2012 Hi my friends. I got it now. Thanks for all your help. One similiar question, would you use also solid to do say car body panels? Quote
ReMark Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 I think I would use solids but I can only speak for myself. I'm not saying that solids would be the preferred way of doing it. Quote
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