rengised Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Hi friends, I need help from you guys, I have attached jpeg file regarding the door elevation symbol. Which one is correct? Elevation 1 or Elevation 2? We receive drawings from other contractor but their symbol is different. Some says Elevation 1 is the correct one. But other says Elevation 2 is the correct one. Thanks guys. Quote
nestly Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Although it seems backward to me, "Elevation 1" is correct. The dashed lines meet each other on the hinge side.... the same goes for casement and awning windows. Quote
MSasu Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Maybe there are two standards? Just asked a friend that works for a door/windows producer and he say that those lines should connect the hinges with the knob; also that there is need to be an "in"/"out" note if the plan view isn’t available. Regards, Mircea Quote
nestly Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Google "Door Elevation Symbol" or "Door Swing Symbol" I don't believe you'll find any with the dashed lines converging on the knob side... also if the knob is shown, there's really only one way it can swing. http://www.ehouseplans.com/blueprints/blueprints.html (Learning to read blueprints) http://www.cadtoolsonline.com/arch-doors-elev.htm (bottom) http://interior.design.umn.edu/documents/BasicDraftingStandardsMASTERrevisionImage32008-1_001.pdf (page(s) 19,41,50) http://www.informationdestination.cengage.com/ReferenceContent/Other%20Content/Plan%20Symbols.pdf (page 26) Marvin Window & Door Company http://pros.marvin.com/download.aspx?DrawingID=2547&Type=dwg http://www.gaston.k12.nc.us/schools/cramerton/faculty/kllasky/Scale%20Drawing%20Documents/Architectural%20Symbols%20Packet%20I.pdf (page 6) Quote
Dana W Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 30 years Architectural drafting experience speaking here. The dashed lines converge on the hinge side, never any deviation. This goes for exterior, interior, kitchen & bath cabinets, and furniture. Even if you have a tambour on a roll top desk, or an overhead garage door, the dashed lines spread toward the open side, and converge at the attachment side. It doesn't matter what a particular door or motorhome mfg might do inside their own shop. We are talking about architectural elevation drawings only. PS: You cannot show knobs on doors that are not intended to have any such as contemporary kitchen cabinet doors. Quote
rkent Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 40 years drafting/design experience here (USA), I have only seen it drawn as in Elev 1, lines converging to hinge side. Quote
Dana W Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 :lol:Well, after 70 years, we should both be tired. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 The way my highschool drafting teacher explained it was this...he said to visualize the dashed lines as an open mouth...open mouth, open door. Which ever side it's open on is the side the door will open on. Quote
rkent Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 :lol:Well, after 70 years, we should both be tired. I don't know about you but I am tired, really tired. Quote
Dana W Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 The way my highschool drafting teacher explained it was this...he said to visualize the dashed lines as an open mouth...open mouth' date=' open door. Which ever side it's open on is the side the door will open on.[/quote'] Your drafting teacher and my drafting teacher musta had the same drafting teacher. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Your drafting teacher and my drafting teacher musta had the same drafting teacher. Showing our ages here Dana. I can remember when schools actually taught drafting. Quote
Dana W Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 Showing our ages here Dana. I can remember when schools actually taught drafting. '63. Soph year in high school. In those days high school was only 3 years, ninth graders were still in junior high where they belong. The shop teacher taught drafting. He was older than papyrus. And, yes, he was missing a couple of fingers (God's own truth). Yeah, drafting indeed. There's a whole recent thread here about the obsolescence of pencil & paper drafting I have been reading. I have been forcing myself NOT to add any comments in that one, cuz boy have I got some beaut's. I don't wanna be banned for life from yet another forum. This thread is a perfect example of what's wrong with the way drafting, especially Architechtural, is taught in so many places. Quote
Dana W Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 Maybe there are two standards? Just asked a friend that works for a door/windows producer and he say that those lines should connect the hinges with the knob; also that there is need to be an "in"/"out" note if the plan view isn’t available. Regards, Mircea Ask your friend what "Left hung", "right hung", "left hand", "right hand", "left hinged", and "right hinged" mean. No, the first two do not have anything to do with getting custom made suit pants measured. Quote
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