Model/paper space

[Priceyboy1973]

I started a level 3 cad course but haven't made it to the night classes that often . I've had the coursework and ran through it over the last 4 months in my spare time and thought I'd pretty much finished! At the last evening course session we were given a task of creating a template, border, title box raster image and I drew it in paperspace as I had on all my previous tasks . My tutor asked me why I'd drawn it in paperspace and I said what:? But replied because I'd then create the suitable viewports and return to the second part of the task and continue drawing in model space. My tutor went on to tell I should have drawn the border etc in model space to which I replied: but I don't want the border etc in every viewport about then the session finished and I'm left a little confused by this . Any advice would be good, I had thought I'd understood the differences between them

[ReMark]

Had the instructor specifically directed you to do it in model space? From your description it doesn't seem so. Therefore, I agree with your approach.

[Priceyboy1973]

Had the instructor specifically directed you to do it in model space? From your description it doesn't seem so. Therefore, I agree with your approach.

 

Thanks, no he hadn't. I did copy the boarder etc I'd drawn in paper space with a base point and then paste it in to model space then erased the original. The tutor then instructed me to complete the drawing within the border in the model space. I questioned him especially as the following task had multiple viewports and he said they will be scaled, which sort of made sense but not fully as it seems strange that the boarder will be shown in all viewports (not that it would matter when they were scaled down). He briefly mentioned something about adding viewports in model space. I asked him straight out had I misunderstood the difference between paper/model space telling him I had thought the border etc should be in paper space and he said yes I was wrong!

[Jack_O'neill]

Much will depend on the instructor's preference. When you get a job or jobs in the future, you'll have to adapt to your employer's cad standards. I've seen this done lots of different ways. When I work for myself, I always put the titleblock and dimensions in paper space, with as many viewports per page as is appropriate. I've worked for clients that want everything in modelspace, with simply a viewport in paperspace for each page. I have even done work for one company that did everything in paperspace! Their cad standards required this, and the only time you used model space was when modeling in 3d (which they highly discouraged and would complain about). You'll just have to pay close attention to who wants what, and adapt.

[Jack_O'neill]

Here's an example. This one has the titleblock and all the dimensions in paperspace. The part is a 3d solid model in model space, viewed through 5 viewports.

[Priceyboy1973]

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Thanks JackO

 

The reason I'm doing this course is for future self employed projects, whilst I'm by no means an expert (just a construction site engineer/contracts manager) I truly believe as a tutor knowing my expectations from this course has complicated my development! What do you think I should concentrate on?

[Jack_O'neill]

Thanks JackO

 

The reason I'm doing this course is for future self employed projects, whilst I'm by no means an expert (just a construction site engineer/contracts manager) I truly believe as a tutor knowing my expectations from this course has complicated my development! What do you think I should concentrate on?

 

Concentrate on...everything! Learn all that is learn-able...about the software, about drafting practices (they are not the same), construction methods...everything. I have worked for various companies throughout the years both in tooling and engineering and architectural drawings of various types. The bulk of my business of late has been curtain wall detailing. The biggest failing I see is a lack of willingness on architects to have supporting structure, and the determination by structural engineers to make things 5 times stronger than is required. Curtain wall won't stand there magically levitated, but by the same token if you can't see the glass for all the steel, why have glass? As a drafter and detailer, one of your jobs (whether you want it or not) will be as a negotiator between these camps. There are architects determined to make a life long legacy of beauty and style from a parking garage, and engineers who want to be known for having built a building that withstood a nuclear explosion, a category 5 hurricane, and a magnitude 8 earthquake all on the same day. The draftsman has to find reality somewhere between these extremes.