syzygy Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 i'm a relative noob in CAD, been with it for about half a year. i'm learning with manuals, help files, this forum, and sheer experience. so i found some topics around here that explain how to achieve an inverted black-and-white plot. but is there any simple way to have them inverted in model space while i'm still working on it? i'm working on a data plate for manufactured equipment. parts of it are black on white, and others white on black. since i'm very good with MS Paint, i'm thinking i might have to resort to that, but it was my understanding that CAD was more advanced than Paint ___ help! there is no "Edit Signature" ignore the version listed at the left. i have more experience with '04 than '10 Quote
Tiger Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 ... it was my understanding that CAD was more advanced than Paint .. <.>.> who told you that?? Nah, just kidding. Black and white are usually the same color in AutoCAD - it displays white if you have white background and black if you run with a white background. So if you want to see it more real, you could try to change the backgground to white. You do that by going into Options > Display > Colors. Quote
syzygy Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 oh, i know that part already; it sorta confused me when i first discovered the layout tab. but it's not just that i want the display inverted. i eventually want to plot it as i see it. other posts i've found on these forums tell you how to invert the entire drawing, but i only need parts of it inverted. it's like if i wanted to plot a chessboard with alternately black and white pieces on the squares. ps- yours is the first name i've read on these forums. i feel blessed that you've graced my thread with your presence. Quote
Tiger Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 would the parts be separated into their own layers perhaps? If you freeze what you don't want to invert then the methods you have found might work? I must confess that I don't really understand what you mean with inverting? My model-space is very color-ful with every color that I can find but it always plots as black. Blessed with my presence? Oh my... I just poke my nose all over the place Quote
syzygy Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 i'm sorry. most of the time i'm just using one layer, so my drawings have no personality until they sit in a viewport. that clears up the reason for confusion. um... i want some parts to print black text/lines, and others to print black and to "not print" white text/lines. so i should use separate layers for the latter and freeze them so that they're unaffected when i plot in the special-secret way i have to read up on again, correct? Paint is looking really nice right about now. ___ additionally, how do i edit a signature without such an option in Settings? Quote
ReMark Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Will you be playing the black or white chess pieces? Quote
Tiger Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 i'm sorry. most of the time i'm just using one layer, so my drawings have no personality until they sit in a viewport. that clears up the reason for confusion. um... i want some parts to print black text/lines, and others to print black and to "not print" white text/lines. so i should use separate layers for the latter and freeze them so that they're unaffected when i plot in the special-secret way i have to read up on again, correct? Paint is looking really nice right about now. ___ additionally, how do i edit a signature without such an option in Settings? AutoCAD will trumph Paint once you get the hang of it You really should start using Layers. The more the merrier, create a new layer for each new thing that you do so that you can easily freeze (hide) them when you don't want to see them. So...you want kinda the chess-board that ReMark linked, and with white text on the black squares and black text on the white squares? I would have everything divvied up by layer and set the white text not as white but as a near-white (255,255,255 for instance) so that it really prints as white. Oh, and the signature here - It could be that its not availible for you until you hit 10 posts. Some things are like that. Quote
rkmcswain Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Black and white are usually the same color in AutoCAD - it displays white if you have white background and black if you run with a white background. True for color 7, but truecolor 0,0,0 will always be black, even on a dark or black background. Same for truecolor 255,255,255 which will always be white, even on a light or white background. Lastly, truecolors always plot as displayed, they are not affected by plot style tables. um... i want some parts to print black text/lines, and others to print black and to "not print" white text/lines. Hopefully the above will help. Quote
syzygy Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 rk and tiger, thank you for your help remark, thank you for your humor i'll come back if i still can't make it happen, which i doubt now ___ my sig rocks yours Quote
ReMark Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Is this what you are attempting to achieve? It's based on rkm's advice. Quote
Tiger Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 ___ my sig rocks yours Happy to help - and that's One Good Deed for today, the Tiger is going home! -- My sig is smokin' Quote
syzygy Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 Is this what you are attempting to achieve? google search "data plate"; it's something along those lines. half of the page is black text on white, which is simple enough. the other half is a black drawing on white, black data plate on white, and white logos/company names on black Quote
Cad64 Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 I would use Adobe Illustrator to create this type of thing. It's basically a hybrid program, somewhere between a paint program and a CAD program. Quote
Tiger Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 google search "data plate"; it's something along those lines. half of the page is black text on white, which is simple enough. the other half is a black drawing on white, black data plate on white, and white logos/company names on black [ATTACH]24652[/ATTACH] A picture says more than a thousand words I would do the black stuff as a black (or truecolor near-black) hatch and a white text over it (use Send to Front/Send to Back to get them in the right order) and the black text just as black text. I would use Adobe Illustrator to create this type of thing. It's basically a hybrid program, somewhere between a paint program and a CAD program. What are you saying? That you can't do everything in AutoCAD, is that what you are saying, IS IT?? BLASPHEMY!!!! Quote
Cad64 Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 What are you saying? That you can't do everything in AutoCAD, is that what you are saying, IS IT?? BLASPHEMY!!!! There are more things in heaven and earth, Tiger, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Quote
syzygy Posted November 19, 2010 Author Posted November 19, 2010 i'm actually settling on MS Paint for this "project." i'm sure Adobe Illustrator is fine and dandy, but it's a hefty price just to create one decal. and AutoCAD, while i use it daily, wasn't made for this thing. i drafted the drawing and copied it over to a bitmap, where i will continue to make the rest of it look pretty in half the time. unfortunately, i have other things to tend to first. thank you for your input though. i will likely be back in another thread. ___ halfway there! Quote
ReMark Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 AutoCAD...not all things to all people. Well, good luck with your project and thanks for warning us that you'll be back. We'll try to be better prepared next time. Quote
Tiger Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 There are more things in heaven and earth, Tiger, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. *hands over ears, eyes firmly shut* LA LA LA LA LA! Quote
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