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How should the finished item be posted online?[/quote

you can either use

Insert image

or attatch the file ...

 

insert image will be fine but if you want to show people how you did it..... then attatch the file :)

either way we just want to see what it looks like :)

it's all abit of fun at the end of the day :)

 

Steve

 

New users if you are looking at this thread please have a go..the guys on here will gladly help if you come across any probs...don't rely on me lol

i am a learner too!!

and looking forward to the challenge.

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Hi Guys,

 

Only just got around to having a look at your thread this evening.

 

Do you mind if I make an observation - multi-body parts have their uses, but I think you would be better off constructing your assemblies as individual parts. This allows for much more flexibility.

 

You can start within the assembly arena and create new parts one from the other until you have a complete assembly. Or you can create a base part first and add to it. In this way everything fits together. You can also do interference checking within the assembly.

 

Whilst in an assembly you can edit and change individual parts - the rest of the assembly will grey out when you choose to do this, but you will still be able to use the gemoetry from other parts to project and create your new part. After you have created the parts you can open them as individual files (in a new window whilst working on the assembly if you like) and any changes you make to them will be reflected in the assembly once you save the part file and update the assembly. If you already have a part file open you will not be able to edit it the assembly as well. You must first close down the part file.

 

Now a word of caution: Make sure you are actually editing a part and not just adding features to the assembly history tree. If you do add features in this manner the individal parts will remain unchanged and the changes you have made will only appear within the assembly.

 

Regards.

 

Dave

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Dave, there is a Make Assembly option from multi-body parts that will insert each part into its own part in an assembly file. I prefer working with MB parts personally but it may be a personal preference thing. I find, especially for new users, understanding projected geometry between parts can be a slippery slope:) This is actually a top of discussion currently on the solidworks forum(another site) on which is better, MB or assemblies. Its come up that designing things like molded housings is great for MB parts.

 

just my 2c:)

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Hi Shift1313,

 

That's fine - I am a big fan of whatever works for you. I was not suggesting that you are doing it the wrong way at all, I just did not want everyone to think that multi-body parts was the only way to do it.

 

And yes, I am fully aware of how they work and the ability to create whole assemblies with multiple parts, or just single parts whilst using multi-bodies.

 

I have only one caveat about it - I am unsure if the problem I had recently was related to one of two Autodesk add-ins I had loaded at the time, but before I cleared them out and installed newer versions I had a crashing problem when I used the "Make Part" command. Fortunately this did not occur when it came to using the "Make Components" command as well. Everything is working as it should now.

 

As long as you are comfortable with the way you are working that's what matters. I use both techniques when it suits me :D.

 

Incidentally, projecting geometry is a vital technique to 3-D CAD modelling and something that SHOULD be mastered ASAP. I don't know if the readers of this post are aware of this, but once you have projected geometry from one part to another it is possibly to break the link between the two (if desired), so that changes to the base part do not cause inadvertent problems with the projected geometry of the second. It is useful to be able to work both ways.

 

Regards all.

 

Dave

 

PS- I am sorry guys, but I have to get back to earning a crust. I will be asbent from the forum for a while, but I am sure that some of the experts around here will be glad to share their knowledge.

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...All the text, coloured blocks and symbols are simple embossings with a raised height of 0.001mm....

I made a large sketch with all of the text and then went back and Embossed by selecting each individual text item.

Is this correct?

I like it because you can see the text on the drawing file, but it bloated the file 586KB even rolled up, so I cannot Attach it.

 

11CFaceplateModel.jpg

BTW I have been using AutoCad Mechanical Desktop for quite a few years now. (mostly tool drawings for compacting presses)

I really like MDT, especially the assembly feature to make tool assembly and stack ups.

I understand that Inventor can do all of that and more.

Hopefully this project will help me improve my Inventor skills since MDT is going Bye bye.

Thanks, George.

11CFaceplate_idw_ISO.jpg

Posted (edited)

Hi George,

 

Yes, text takes up large quantities (relatively speaking) of file space, no matter whether it is 2-D AutoCAD or a 3-D Inventor file. It's just the way it is.

 

Re the file size, there is nothing to stop you posting either an Inventor studio rendered image or you can take a screen snap shot by pressing the "Prt Screen" button on your keyboard and pasting it into something like "Paint" - this you will find in the Accessories folder of Windows.

 

When you save your image(s) do so in .png format, these files take up of a LOT less room than jpg or bmp files.

 

That's it - my final post. I am offically off the forum for a while.

 

Good luck Bye all.

 

Dave

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Well i have got this far with mine and the bottom bit is really getting to me...lol

anyway...

here's what i done so far .

 

model r.jpg

 

I need to figure out 3d drawing because at the moment i am arcing and lofting and using the shape of the remote as the path ..it really doesn't look right :(,,,still i have a few weeks to sort it...lol

 

Steve

 

p.s cmon new bees have a go :)

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nice work steve. im slowly making progress on mine when i find time around work! how many people are taking part?! come on guys have a blast! :)

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nice work steve. im slowly making progress on mine when i find time around work! how many people are taking part?! come on guys have a blast! :)

 

Only time will tell mate...hoping loads have a go will be good to see differant controls and how they did it...

mine looks ok.... "but"..... i aint that happy with it...but hey ..i'm still learning !!

 

CMON new bees have a blast like harvey says!!

:D:D

doesn't matter if you struggle this is the hole point of it .

the more experience guys on here will gladly help!!

 

Happy modelling...lol:thumbsup:

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..I had a crashing problem when I used the "Make Part" command. .

 

Yes, this is a known problem with at least one of the technology preview add-ins.

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I am trying to Emboss text, but I can't figure out why I can see the text on the Model, but when I render it, the text disappears.

Screen shots have the inventor background.

The text that I embossed on the buttons seems to render OK, it's the Text on the cover plate that didn't work.

11CCoverScreenShot.jpg

11CAssemblyScreenShot.jpg

HP11CoverRendered.png

HP11CRendered.png

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hmm strange. maybe emboss a bit deeper? or change the text colour? how have you guys gone about the buttons? done them as individual parts or as one part? hmmm unsure how far to go with it...

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...how have you guys gone about the buttons? done them as individual parts or as one part? hmmm unsure how far to go with it...

I know that it's not technically correct, but I did the buttons as one part, and then changed the properties on a couple of the extrusions to change their color. I like how you can do that even though it's part of an array.

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Thank you Dave I have learned something today, thank you for share this information.

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I am trying to Emboss text, but I can't figure out why I can see the text on the Model, but when I render it, the text disappears.

Screen shots have the inventor background.

The text that I embossed on the buttons seems to render OK, it's the Text on the cover plate that didn't work.

 

 

You can see them there(very faint) so the issue is a lighting and depth issue. You might consider changing the color of the face(one selection) to a slightly lighter color. That will make the emboss stand out a bit more. If you add a presentation background as well as play with the lighting i think they will show up better.

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Only time will tell mate...hoping loads have a go will be good to see differant controls and how they did it...

mine looks ok.... "but"..... i aint that happy with it...but hey ..i'm still learning !!

 

CMON new bees have a blast like harvey says!!

:D:D

doesn't matter if you struggle this is the hole point of it .

the more experience guys on here will gladly help!!

 

Happy modelling...lol:thumbsup:

 

Had a do 2 nite ste, at (sky +) remote and, like u struggled to get an accurate rep of the overall geometry.

 

Any way .. here's a simple way of getting the slight curve in the shape from one end to the other,, if you can down load this file..hey up it wont let me upload

 

...mmm weird what a shame..

Posted (edited)

Hi Guys,

 

Just want to share what I have created. Using multiple body feature.

 

Problem:

 

1. The font embossed doesn't seem to be showing nicely after render.

 

Remote.jpg

 

Remote 2.jpg

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Hi Guys,

 

Just want to share what I have created. Using multiple body feature.

 

Problem:

 

1. The font embossed doesn't seem to be showing nicely after render.

 

[ATTACH]23784[/ATTACH]

 

[ATTACH]23787[/ATTACH]

 

Nice work will,

 

I have also taken the multi body approach to this task. As for the rendering try changin the lighting or extruding the emboss a bit more this should help... :)

 

Thanks Rob

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Nice work will,

 

I have also taken the multi body approach to this task. As for the rendering try changin the lighting or extruding the emboss a bit more this should help... :)

 

Thanks Rob

 

Thanks Rob. I will give it a try. and more trial and error...:lol:

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Nice work ...the rendering makes a whole lot of difference.

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