extremeregime Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Hi guys, I'm new here, as well as to AutoCAD. Currently, in school and learning AutoCAD to do permit drawings. School has taught me very little, in terms of using AutoCAD and drawing permit drawings. So I appologize if my question is dumb. I need to print a few drawings on 11x17 paper w/title block. From the very little that I've been taught, I've gathered that I need to XREF my title block into model space then XREF my drawing into model space right after. Create a Viewport (MV) in paperspace, where the title block already shows up, and then scale my drawing and in the end just bind the two. Sad to say it took almost 2 semesters to learn that, but I know how to do it. However, the issue I have is when I get my title block to appear in paper space and then viewport I get a blank box. I expand the viewport and still nothing there. Anyone have any idea's/suggestions as to why it is doing this and how to fix? PS I'm using AutoCAD 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNK Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Select the viewport "blank box", and open the properties. Look for a setting to turn the viewport 'on'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Try activating your viewport by double clicking inside it and then perform a Zoom Extents. Just make sure your viewport is unlocked before you do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 Thanks guys for the responses. I do appologize for the late repsonse, I was at work pretty much all day. DNK --> I tried what you suggested, and still the same problem. Viewport is on turned in the properties manager. Cade64 --> I tried what you suggested as well and I can't find my floor plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Cade64 --> I tried what you suggested as well and I can't find my floor plan. What happens when you perform a Zoom Extents in Model space? Does your drawing disappear? I'm guessing you have some objects floating around way out in space somewhere. You will need to locate those objects and delete them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 I just get a blank box only difference is the x and y axis appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well, we could keep going round and round with this, or you could post your drawing so I can take a look at it. Use the ETRANSMIT command to zip your file and then post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 Here is my floor plan for the second level. I've also included my title block as well; however, no matter which title block I use, I have the same issue. I do appreciate the help Cad64. Thank you very much. ARCH1006PROJECTSECONDFLOOR2007_dwg.zip 11x17 title block imperial.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well, I don't know what the problem is? I can see the floorplan in the viewport, I can Xref in the title block, I can Zoom Extents and everything seems fine. You must be doing something wrong on your end, but without seeing exactly what you're doing, I can't recommend the correct course of action. One thing I did find in your floorplan drawing is an error. You should run an AUDIT to fix that. Otherwise, everything seems fine to me. Maybe someone running 2008 can check the files on their machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 I don't know then what the issue is on me end. What kind of error did you find? Maybe the error is causing the issue here. I will run and AUDIT to fix it. I XREF the title block and the floor plan into the a new drawing. Then I click the layout 1 or 2 paperspace tab, MV to create the viewport and double click my trackwheel to zoom extent. I do also want to ask you, as a professional in the industry, how does my floor plan look? Because to me it doesn't really work and I'm not to keen on it but my prof insisted that it be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Ok, I just tried to Xref the floorplan into the title block drawing. Then I did a Zoom Extents and I got a blank screen. So I opened the floorplan drawing, ran the AUDIT and fixed the error. Then I xreff'd the floorplan into the title block drawing again and this time it worked fine. So whatever that error was, it was causing that strange occurrence. So run the AUDIT, fix the error and you should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 I ran the audit, and found 0 errors. I guess either my autocad has an error and isn't picking anything up or when I was at school there was an error in the autocad program and messed my files up. Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: ACAD Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: CUSTOM Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: EXPRESS Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: IMPRESSION Opening an AutoCAD 2007 format file. Regenerating model. AutoCAD Express Tools Copyright © 2002-2004 Autodesk, Inc. AutoCAD menu utilities loaded. Autodesk DWG. This file is a TrustedDWG last saved by an Autodesk application or Autodesk licensed application. Command: COMMANDLINE Command: EXTERNALREFERENCES Command: TOOLPALETTES Command: AUDIT Fix any errors detected? [Yes/No] : Y Auditing Header Auditing Tables Auditing Entities Pass 1 Pass 1 2200 objects audited Auditing Entities Pass 2 Pass 2 2200 objects audited Auditing Blocks 33 Blocks audited Total errors found 0 fixed 0 Erased 0 objects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I do also want to ask you, as a professional in the industry, how does my floor plan look? Because to me it doesn't really work and I'm not to keen on it but my prof insisted that it be that way. Well, since you asked, here are my thoughts: I don't really like the fact that the only way to get to the studio is through the guest bedroom. If you have someone staying with you, then you would not have access to it. Plus, you have to go through the laundry room to get in there and you just have too many doors all opening into each other at that point of entry. It's very awkward and would be very difficult to go in and out of that room. Also, the stairs leading right up into that room eliminates any privacy that someone staying with you might have. The only access to the roof top decks is through the bedrooms. Makes it difficult for others to enjoy them. Bedroom number 4 is about the size of a large closet. Not much room in there. I see a lot of wasted space. The hallway is too large. You could park a car in there. There is also a large open area across from the main stairway which isn't practical and really couldn't be used for anything. I think with a little redesign, you could make a much more practical layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I ran the audit, and found 0 errors. I guess either my autocad has an error and isn't picking anything up or when I was at school there was an error in the autocad program and messed my files up. Well, here's the file, free from errors. Try it and see if it works for you. ARCH 1006 PROJECT SECOND FLOOR 2007.dwg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well, here's the file, free from errors. Try it and see if it works for you. Thanks I will try this and see if it works for me. I really appreciate all your help. In which I truly thank you for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremeregime Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well, since you asked, here are my thoughts: I don't really like the fact that the only way to get to the studio is through the guest bedroom. If you have someone staying with you, then you would not have access to it. Plus, you have to go through the laundry room to get in there and you just have too many doors all opening into each other at that point of entry. It's very awkward and would be very difficult to go in and out of that room. Also, the stairs leading right up into that room eliminates any privacy that someone staying with you might have. The only access to the roof top decks is through the bedrooms. Makes it difficult for others to enjoy them. Bedroom number 4 is about the size of a large closet. Not much room in there. I see a lot of wasted space. The hallway is too large. You could park a car in there. There is also a large open area across from the main stairway which isn't practical and really couldn't be used for anything. I think with a little redesign, you could make a much more practical layout. I like this feedback. It is the truth. This is not my original floor plan idea. This is my prof's idea of a floor plan. The studio area, used to be like a serperate guest area. Thats why there is a stair case leading there. Where the studio is, it used to be a bedroom. The bedroom outside the studio used to be a tv room with a computer. The second floor used to be two bedroom. Huge deck, off the master bedrooom. Nice size WIC; as well as, a very nice looking master ensuite. With his and hers toilets, his and hers sinks, bidets, and then one soaker tub and custom shower stall. The master bedroom, used to be on the right side, and the second bedroom was where the master bedroom is. Master Ensuite, doesn't work for me as I designed the exterior to be a modern california style home with the big windows. I used to have larger stairs. I believe that depending on the house, the stairs makes a nice impact on the impression one gets of the home. Prof narrowed my stairs down a lot, didn't want to have to climb so many risers. Basically, this was his idea of an ideal floor plan. Sad to say, he is a fully licensed Architect and hold a Masters in Architecture. I feel really ashamed, to have a floor plan like this. My current profession is doing custom renovations, and I've done a fair bit of basements and a few additions and never ever have I seen a floor plan this bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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