Ceramic wall and floor tiling

[deborah]

Hi there

 

I am currently drawing plan/elevations of a bathroom and I want to tile the walls and floor.

 

Is there a quick way to tile a specified area? I know about copying a tile and then copying groups of tiles etc. I have even tried hatching the area with a tile pattern but you cannot edit each tile this way.

 

Has anyone come across this and more importantly is there a quick and easy solution to this?!

 

Deborah

[ReMark]

Why don't you use the Array command? You know...rows and columns.

[deborah]

hi

thanks, will try the array command although i'm using a brick pattern so not sure if this will work, will keep you posted....

[BIGAL]

Dont use array just use the hatch pattern NET its a sq pattern you just need to change the hatch scale and then it matches exactly your tile size.

 

You can copy the NET pattern and resize it

*NET, Horizontal / vertical grid

0, 0,0, 0,.125

90, 0,0, 0,.125

the 0.125 is the spacing this example is imperial feet .125 1/8"

 

If you want metric you just rescale or create say tile100

*TILE100, Horizontalvert

0, 0,0, 0,100

90, 0,0, 0,100

 

Sorry read a bit closer there are brick hatch patterns as well probably about 6+ do bhatch and pick the little button .. to view all the patterns just play with scale.

[edwinprakoso]

Use pattern. You may need to move UCS to adjust pattern the position...

[ReMark]

Hey guys. The OP also wrote...

 

"...cannot edit each tile this way."

 

She cannot edit tiles if they are constructed using the Hatch command.

[deborah]

Hi BIGAL

 

thanks for your tip on the hatch pattern. That's what Ive been playing around with yesterday afternoon but can't quite get the scale to match the exact size of the tile! Will persevere.....

[hugha]

A hatch pattern would be fastest. You can adjust the hatch origin so the tiling starts at a particular point.

 

What's the tile size and arrangement?

 

Hugh Adamson

Cadro Pty Ltd

www.hatchkit.com.au

[eldon]

Of course, you could Explode the hatch, and then you could edit any tile.

 

But, you might have to get special permission from ReMark to explode a hatch, or do it while he isn't looking

[deborah]

Hi everyone - thanks for your comments - Hugha, the size of the tiles are 29 x 49cm and the area obviously varies from plan size to walls e.g. the floor plan of the room is 7.42SQM.

 

I have not managed to get the exact tile size as am just playing with the scale on the hatch (brick pattern) and the other problem is, it always centres the pattern in the area and obviously I need to start with a whole tile!

[Crazy J]

but you cannot edit each tile this way.

 

 

Would an xref that is then copied or array'd make sense? If it's done right, you should be able to modify any tile you choose and it will update all of them. I'm not really that experienced with them yet, so that is about all I can offer. Maybe someone else can give more tips on just how to go about that. I imagine around the edges of the pattern, you'd have half-tiles. Perhaps you could create a second x-ref that is a half-tile, and then work that in around the ends of the pattern.

[deborah]

Dont know about xref yet but something I can probably get help on so will give this a go.

[hugha]

... the size of the tiles are 29 x 49cm and the area obviously varies from plan size to walls e.g. the floor plan of the room is 7.42SQM.

 

 

This is the simplest pattern for that size in running bond:

 

*49X29TILE

;----------------------------------------------------------------

; Pattern written by HatchKit v2.7 Hatch Pattern Editor

; HatchKit v2.7 Hatch Pattern Editor© Cadro Pty Ltd 1990-2008.

; www.cadro.com.au/hatchkit/

;----------------------------------------------------------------

;-Template=NEW,

;-Date =23/02/2010

;-Time =11:27:07 AM

;-HatchKitVersion=2.7.1.1995

;----------------------------------------------------------------

90,0,0,29,24.5,29,-29

0,0,0,0,29

 

 

This pattern lacks grouting which is probably visual clutter.

 

If you wanted to space the tiles on a 50x30 cm spacing to allow for (but not show) 1 cm separation the hatch pattern would be

 

*50X30TILE

;----------------------------------------------------------------

; Pattern written by HatchKit v2.7 Hatch Pattern Editor

; HatchKit v2.7 Hatch Pattern Editor© Cadro Pty Ltd 1990-2008.

; www.cadro.com.au/hatchkit/

;----------------------------------------------------------------

;-Template=NEW,

;-Date =23/02/2010

;-Time =11:30:34 AM

;-HatchKitVersion=2.7.1.1995

;----------------------------------------------------------------

90,0,0,30,25,30,-30

0,0,0,0,30

 

If you are working in millimetres scale the hatches by 10 and rotate if necessary during placement.

 

Autocad allows you to set the hatch origin so tiling can start at a logical point such as in a room corner or level with the top of the major fixture.

 

hth

 

Hugh Adamson

Cadro Pty Ltd

www.hatchkit.com.au

[DODGE]

Of course, you could Explode the hatch, and then you could edit any tile.

 

But, you might have to get special permission from ReMark to explode a hatch, or do it while he isn't looking

 

Yep exploding a hatch pattern around here means execution after 30 days in the hole. I asked the same thing a couple of years back.

D

[Tankman]

"Autocad allows you to set the hatch origin so tiling can start at a logical point such as in a room corner or level with the top of the major fixture."

 

Regardless, tiling should start in the center of a room.

This would avoid, i.e.: 2" wide tiles on the left and 4" wide tiles on the right.

 

Haven't tried it however, thinking, "I could set a pattern center of a room and scale to fit." Use center of the room as a base point for scaling.

 

I'm goin' to try it just 'cause I want to.

[ruksi]

You can do hatch patten user defined It can change as per the my attach jpeg no 01

 

Then you can see horizontal way line for change that as per no 02 tick

then you can give the spacing as tile size,

 

no 03 use for adjust cut tile

I hope this ok for you

[deborah]

Cheers for all your suggestions - have had a play around with quite a few variations and this is ok if you are applying tiles that are evenly displayed i.e. horizontal and vertically applied tiles however, the brick effect is a different ball game. Havent had a chance to try out the hatch editor method as suggested by Hugh so this will be my next step!

 

Deborah

[hugha]

... use the Hatch Origin options in the Hatch and Gradient dialog box.

[kencaz]

hi

thanks, will try the array command although i'm using a brick pattern so not sure if this will work, will keep you posted....

 

Why couldn't you array a brick pattern?

 

For such a small area and I would just array a brick pattern making your tiles the size you want to purchase. This will avoid having to scale the hatch pattern and having to insert your fixtures before hand to hatch around them with regions and islands...

 

You can then array the whole section of wall you want to tile and insert your wall fixtures and windows no matter what the shape and just trim.

 

 

KC

[Crazy J]

Following on kencaz's idea....

 

so you would just create your brick pattern in such a way that when repeated via an array, you get a full brick look? The attachment here is an example unit of the brick pattern that could be arrayed. I guess you would have to play around with which centerline of the brick pattern you chose for each corner of the unit based upon how you plan to lay the brick based upon the shape of the room and such.