FILLET and CHAMFER - "unknown commands" in acad 2009?

[Randolph]

For years, I have been using the following commands in my acad.lsp:

 

(DEFUN C:C ()(COMMAND "_FILLET"))
(DEFUN C:V ()(COMMAND "_CHAMFER"))

 

This worked without any problems in acad 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2007.

 

In acad 2009, I get the error message (quoting from my memory):

 

 
unknown command: _fillet
unknown command: _chamfer

 

Though, using the buttons, the commands are written in the status line exactly the same way - and work exactly the same way.

 

Who can help? Thanks a lot - I use these commands 2009 times a day.

[Randolph]

Noone an idea?

[alanjt]

Are you able to create a command for anything else?

(defun c:test (/) (command "line"))

Does that work?

 

Might need to repair your install.

[Randolph]

All other commands work just fine:

 

 
; 3D Orbit

(DEFUN C:Q ()(COMMAND "_3DORBIT"))

; 2D-BASICS

(DEFUN C:A ()(COMMAND "_DIST"))
(DEFUN C:F ()(COMMAND "_AREA"))
(DEFUN C:Y ()(COMMAND "_EXTEND"))
(DEFUN C:R ()(COMMAND "_ROTATE"))
(DEFUN C:L ()(COMMAND "_LINE"))
(DEFUN C:PL ()(COMMAND "_PLINE"))
(DEFUN C:RE ()(COMMAND "_RECTANGLE"))
(DEFUN C:PE ()(COMMAND "_PEDIT"))
(DEFUN C:M ()(COMMAND "_MIRROR"))
(DEFUN C:X ()(COMMAND "_TRIM"))
[color=red](DEFUN C:C ()(COMMAND "_FILLET"))[/color]
[color=red](DEFUN C:V ()(COMMAND "_CHAMFER"))[/color]
(DEFUN C:O ()(COMMAND "_OFFSET"))
(DEFUN C:K ()(COMMAND "_CIRCLE"))
(DEFUN C:B ()(COMMAND "_STRETCH"))
(DEFUN C:D ()(COMMAND "_COPY"))
(DEFUN C:T ()(COMMAND "_MOVE"))
(DEFUN C:BL ()(COMMAND "_BLOCK"))
(DEFUN C:LI ()(COMMAND "_LIST"))
(DEFUN C:VA ()(COMMAND "_SCALE"))
(DEFUN C:XX ()(COMMAND "_EXPLODE"))
(DEFUN C:EG ()(COMMAND "_MATCHPROP"))
(DEFUN C:SO ()(COMMAND "_SOLID"))
(DEFUN C:TEI ()(COMMAND "_DIVIDE"))

; 3D-BASICS

(DEFUN C:WA ()(COMMAND "_POLYSOLID"))
(DEFUN C:QA ()(COMMAND "_BOX"))
(DEFUN C:KU ()(COMMAND "_SPHERE"))
(DEFUN C:CY ()(COMMAND "_CYLINDER"))
(DEFUN C:EX ()(COMMAND "_EXTRUDE"))
(DEFUN C:S ()(COMMAND "_SLICE"))
(DEFUN C:UN ()(COMMAND "_UNION"))
(DEFUN C:SE ()(COMMAND "_SUBTRACT"))
(DEFUN C:DE ()(COMMAND "_INTERSECT"))
(DEFUN C:R3 ()(COMMAND "_ROTATE3D"))
(DEFUN C:M3 ()(COMMAND "_MIRROR3D"))
(DEFUN C:SR ()(COMMAND "_SOLPROFIL"))

; DATEI

;(DEFUN C:OE ()(COMMAND "_ORIGEINFÜG"))
(DEFUN C:OE ()(COMMAND "_PASTEORIG"))
(DEFUN C:BER ()(COMMAND "_PURGE"))
(DEFUN C:REG ()(COMMAND "_REGEN"))
(DEFUN C:RDA ()(COMMAND "_REDRAWALL"))

; UCS

(DEFUN C:BX ()(COMMAND "_UCS" "X"))
(DEFUN C:BY ()(COMMAND "_UCS" "Y"))
(DEFUN C:BZ ()(COMMAND "_UCS" "Z"))

 

and so on ...

[Lee Mac]

Why are you using that?

 

Why not just change the command aliases in the .pgp file?

 

Go to Tools > Customise > Edit Program Parameters (acad.pgp)

 

(might be different in other versions, but thats the order in 2010)

 

Lee

[ReMark]

I can confirm that not only do the commands still exist but they also function just as you have shown them (command line version)...

 

_chamfer

_fillet

 

Copied directly from the text screen in AutoCAD 2009:

 

Command: _fillet

Current settings: Mode = TRIM, Radius = 0.0000

Select first object or [undo/Polyline/Radius/Trim/Multiple]:

 

Command: _chamfer

(TRIM mode) Current chamfer Dist1 = 0.0000, Dist2 = 0.0000

Select first line or [undo/Polyline/Distance/Angle/Trim/mEthod/Multiple]:

[alanjt]

They both work for me too. Since everything except those 2 works, I'd go with the second option I suggested and repair your install.

[ReMark]

Somewhere along the line did you redefine the commands whilst doing some customisation?

[Randolph]

Hi, back again after a long day. Thanx for your comments.

 

Lee Mac,

 

I use the acad.lsp shortcut commands instead of the acad.pgp (as i did previously) for 2 reasons:

 

1.) The acad.lsp is much longer than the part shown and contains lots of commands like "dxm" (duplicate in x-direction multiple times), "rd" (rotate duplicate), "df" (duplicate without offset) or - as seen in another thread - "sx" (slice parallel to yz-plane, as well as copied commands like "heal" and the like.

 

If anybody should be interested instead of bored, just tell me.

 

2.) the lsp overrules the pgp, so, if i get to a new computer, i just appload my lisp from my memory stick and things work the way i want them to (except for my own computer right now ...). according to my experience, the original pgp has to be renamed, my own pgp copied, restartet (?)and after work is done, everything to be rechanged again. This makes people nervous.

 

ReMark,

 

if I enter the commands, they work as well. Only with the shortcuts "v" and "c" i get the error message. (v stands for the edge, c for the round shape, x for the crossing, y for the extension ... all on the left side as well)

 

My suspicion would have been something about the fact, that all other versions were german, and the one now is english. But - as the lisp commands are english anyway and work on your versions, this doesn't seem to be the point.

[alanjt]

Just so you know Randolph, with newer version of ACad, there is a user section at the bottom of the pgp file.

;  -- User Defined Command Aliases --
;  Make any changes or additions to the default AutoCAD command aliases in 
;  this section to ensure successful migration of these settings when you
;  upgrade to the next version of AutoCAD.  If a command alias appears more
;  than once in this file, items in the User Defined Command Alias take
;  precedence over duplicates that appear earlier in the file.
;  **********----------**********  ; No xlate ; DO NOT REMOVE

 

I actually make a little lisp routine that will edit my pgp with all my preferred command aliases.

There is nothing wrong with what you are doing. I still think you need to repair.

[Randolph]

Hi alanjt,

 

yes, i know, but if i leave the computer, the owner has all commands changed without me deleting them from the appendix. or do you start a routine for that, too? else, i just restart autocad, and all my traces are gone.

 

Have no access to my computer with the described problem right now. But this one is mine, so I have the problem permanently.

[alanjt]

Hi alanjt,

 

yes, i know, but if i leave the computer, the owner has all commands changed without me deleting them from the appendix. or do you start a routine for that, too? else, i just restart autocad, and all my traces are gone.

 

Have no access to my computer with the described problem right now. But this one is mine, so I have the problem permanently.

In my experience, if a person starts with an old computer (someone else had) they get a clean install. Even if that isn't an option, all customization files are stored in the Documents and Settings folder, pertaining to user login. The next person isn't going to use your login.

 

As I said before, there's nothing wrong with what you are doing. I was just offering what I do.

[Randolph]

As I said before, there's nothing wrong with what you are doing. I was just offering what I do.

 

That's how I understood it and I thank you. I just wanted to explain why I don't follow your advice in this case. In a professional environment, I guess you're perfectly right. Working here and there on this and that machine, I found my solution the easiest. Which doesn't necessarily mean that it really is.

 

This brings me to another point, which I will treat in a new thread.

[alanjt]

That's how I understood it and I thank you. I just wanted to explain why I don't follow your advice in this case. In a professional environment, I guess you're perfectly right. Working here and there on this and that machine, I found my solution the easiest. Which doesn't necessarily mean that it really is.

 

This brings me to another point, which I will treat in a new thread.

 

 

Right on. Originally, I did it the same way, but I got tired of some working differently when called that way.

[Randolph]

Hi Alan, so we're back to your suggestion that I should repair my install. What exactly do you mean by that? I only know how to re-install - that's something I would love to avoid ...

[ReMark]

There should be a REPAIR option on your installation DVD.

[ReMark]

Check out this thread. Look at the last post on the first page.

 

http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22298

[alanjt]

Start>Control Panel>Add or Remove Programs. Find your Acad install and click on Change/Remove. When it finally loads the window, you will have the option to Install, Uninstall or Repair.

 

I really use acad more than the image states. That's Land Desktop and I'm a Civil 3D fanboy.

[Randolph]

ok, will check it out.

[ReMark]

Randolph: Any luck with the REPAIR option?