Jeez... it is 2021 and about to be 2022 and we are still discussing "Toolbars" versus the "Ribbon"? Why not just go back to the drafting board and a pencil? Evolve for crying out loud instead of stagnating. I'm 72. I started, 38 years ago, with AutoCAD version 1.2 (April, 1983), when it was a DOS based program and somehow I managed, over time, to transition from a menu based program to the Ribbon. If I can do it so can you.